tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6112936277054198647.post3221913815636206658..comments2024-03-12T00:42:06.642+10:00Comments on Who-T: X11R7.5 released - but what is it?Peter Huttererhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17204066043271384535noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6112936277054198647.post-47852887787524239732009-11-18T00:23:25.545+10:002009-11-18T00:23:25.545+10:00It sounds great, but to a simple Ubuntu jockey lik...It sounds great, but to a simple Ubuntu jockey like me, leaves me swirling in a mist of uncertainty. Case in point:<br /><br />7.5 installed to Karmic with this PPA...<br />https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid<br />...but no idea if I am really running the MPX dream of 1.7 or 1.7.1 or even 1.7.99 or 1.8. And little idea how to test out if MPX is active.<br /><br />(BTW, some help on that would make my day).Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11518885416300221478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6112936277054198647.post-82410070570532826112009-10-29T19:39:56.721+10:002009-10-29T19:39:56.721+10:00Excellent, you should Wikify this on http://X.org ...Excellent, you should Wikify this on http://X.org as "The elements of an X11 release", and start linking to it from release announcements. I'd volunteer but I have no idea how MoinMoin works.<br /><br />The weird thing with these X11R7.what releases is it seems "7.5" doesn't appear in any --version output or log file. I know I'm running X server 1.6.0 in Kubuntu, but I had no idea whether that's X11R7.4 or something else until I searched for x11 in packagekit and found a few package versions like "x11-xserver-utils - 7.4+1"<br /><br />Congrats on X11R7.5 and your XI2 work. Wait, X11R7.5 has xinput-1.5 and libXi-1.3, no sign of version 2. The confusion continues ;-)skierpagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04480517078252023572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6112936277054198647.post-91917274978719945792009-10-29T13:49:43.596+10:002009-10-29T13:49:43.596+10:00I know katamari is a Japanese word, but did you ad...I know katamari is a Japanese word, but did you adopt it directly or via the Katamari Damacy game series?<br /><br />If so, which developer would you say fits the role of King of All Cosmos best?James Henstridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09514218815909795561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6112936277054198647.post-53915026761633175382009-10-29T03:59:55.775+10:002009-10-29T03:59:55.775+10:00Not sure what Corey thinks KDE versioning is like....Not sure what Corey thinks KDE versioning is like. As far as I can tell, X's model is similar.<br /><br />For example, I'm using KDE 3.5.8 which includes Konsole 1.6.6, digiKam 0.9.2-final, etc. Individual components of KDE have different versions.samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07253677361533166582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6112936277054198647.post-4703014711798436412009-10-28T22:30:40.317+10:002009-10-28T22:30:40.317+10:00Here it is :
http://blog.cafeaumiel.com/post/2009...Here it is :<br /><br />http://blog.cafeaumiel.com/post/2009/10/X11R7.5-est-publi%C3%A9-!-Oui-mais...<br /><br />Note that it will maybe be published on htt://www.linuxfr.org, depending on the moderators :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17494649759987066765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6112936277054198647.post-82648973588001539802009-10-28T21:53:28.141+10:002009-10-28T21:53:28.141+10:00thomas:
feel free do to so.
Corey:
Except - we do...thomas:<br />feel free do to so.<br /><br />Corey:<br />Except - we don't update everything with every release, so unified version numbers simply don't make a lot of sense. Shipping the same package as version 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2 just because it's part of a is IMO equally confusing.<br /><br />Either way, though I appreciate your feedback this is just a random blog and this post was merely to explain the numbers, not to justify them. Any number of comments here won't make the version numbering change, please take it to the xorg developers list if you really want it to change.Peter Huttererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17204066043271384535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6112936277054198647.post-15718460580845039952009-10-28T19:42:34.706+10:002009-10-28T19:42:34.706+10:00Peter:
Yes, Fedora (or Ubuntu, etc.) have a singl...Peter: <br />Yes, Fedora (or Ubuntu, etc.) have a single version number that represent a number of upstream packages, but a distro is not really analogous to a project ala X.org, GNOME or KDE. The latter develop most of their core software in a single location, rather than pulling in from many sources like a distro. This difference is why standardized numbering makes sense in the X.org setting and not the Fedora one.Corey Burgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724691582911530338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6112936277054198647.post-5845231140248647142009-10-28T19:37:09.785+10:002009-10-28T19:37:09.785+10:00I would like to translate and publish your post, s...I would like to translate and publish your post, since I found it very instructive ?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17494649759987066765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6112936277054198647.post-35983965837310471102009-10-28T17:23:17.496+10:002009-10-28T17:23:17.496+10:00Corey:
Fedora 12 stands for a collection of softwa...Corey:<br />Fedora 12 stands for a collection of software packages, not for a single package. X11R7.5 stands for a collection of software packages, not for a single package. We do have a single version number (X11R7.x), if that's what you're looking for. At the same time you have more flexibility if you want to update different modules independently.Peter Huttererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17204066043271384535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6112936277054198647.post-41279912938326452512009-10-28T17:02:03.087+10:002009-10-28T17:02:03.087+10:00I really love what the X.org team has done technol...I really love what the X.org team has done technologically, but if you need this many words to describe your version numbering, you have failed. Please make it easy for distributors and users and adopt a scheme similar to the GNOME one, where most of the modules share a common numbering scheme.Corey Burgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724691582911530338noreply@blogger.com